Talk:Nomadbase

Dante:

looking forward to brainstorm collectively on how we may describe certain characteristics of a nomad base.

I imagine such description, ( a nomad base manifesto ? ) can then be publicized in various cities through hospitality networks and forums, inspiring and inviting other "houses" to join a nomadbase network. ( or inspire other individuals that are already using their houses as nomad bases to connect with each other ).

I feel such brainstorming would not set any specific rules or definitions of what a nomad base should be, but describe certain potential properties/tendencies/intentions of nomadic bases, the kind of dynamics likely to develop in such bases, ...


 * I'm copying this to the discussion page and rewrite it in the article. guaka 21:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

What a nomad base is not
Should there be any restriction? This section is just questioning.

A nomad base is like a hackerspace, but you can sleepthere too...

Can a rural community of hippies that don't have internet be a nomadbase?

Can a nomadbase organise lucrative event (dinner, sell alcohol)
 * No financial condition to participate. Donations are acceptable. (what's about minimum donations?)
 * For non-necessary controversial items like alcohol, it is ok to demand financial contribution.
 * If nomadbase cannot be lucrative, what is the position of eco-friendly farms and cooperatives in the network? and cultural associations?
 * necessity to explode the difference between lucrative and supportive events/contributions.

Can nomads be asked to work in exchange of accommodation and food? if yes, with what extent?

Can a nomad base make a call for nomads to include them in specific projects (like a call for ; musicians to have a concert or a call for gardeners to set up urban gardening solutions)? If yes how this functionality can be developed in the online network?

Can nomads be asked to contribute by buying food?

In substance: how can a nomad base sustain itself?

Can a hierarchical network of bases become a nomad base or collaborate with it? (See hobos: more discussion/understanding needed)

Do we have positions regarding drugs (heavy/light) and alcohol? Or is every base free to decide?

Can local homeless people live in a nomad base.
 * This kind of up to each base. It goes a bit against the "nomad" tag, but hey...

Differences in Structures
I feel it is important to consider the differences between nomad bases. What they can provide, how much they can provide, etc. This depends initially on the people who create the base, but as soon as new people come it is likely to change. It also depends heavily on the geographic location of the base, primarily because of the different natural resources but also because of the different things you can get cheap/for free in different countries.

For me, the intention and attitude is the important part. Everything else is secondary. As for restrictions in general, it depends on the situation again. We do have some very general restrictions in our space, which I thought were common sense up until I realized that quite a lot of visiting nomads could not figure it out unless it is spelled out for them. So we did spell it out in texts that are on a notice board and other strategic places. This did improve a lot of things, but also reduced the amount of visitors we were having, in a positive way. The ones that still come, are usually way cooler and much more respectful.

Internet, television, radio, etc, have nothing to do with the definition of a nomad base in my opinion. While I understand that the internet is quite a trendy and cool tool available almost anywhere nowadays, and it is also tremendously useful, it is by no means a requirement for any nomad base to have. Along the same lines, it could be argued that massages and vintage guitars are almost universally appreciated and few people could argue they are of no use, but I wouldn't really expect every nomad base to offer them to me.

As for drugs, alcohol, meat, religion, etc, I think that if what you are about to do/use is going to make someone else in the same space feel uneasy, you should find somewhere else to do it/use it, and return when the results of what you have done are no longer upsetting for anyone. Communication is vital for that. For instance: "Hey, I want to shoot up some smack and then pass out and potentially vomit, is everybody fine with me doing it in the corner of the living room while you guys are eating?".. Which could get a reply of "Nah, it would be best if you did this in the little room in the garage, there's a bucket there and I think the last guy left a torniquet you could use.."

Finally, the issue of sustainability. Since I would hate the concept of nomad bases to become classist, it should be worked out in a way that would enable people of all social classes to participate in any way. Rich, poor, and moneyless people should be able to start a nomadbase, or visit one. Obviously, a moneyless person starting a nomadbase would probably have a hard time providing 20 nomads with food and beer daily, so depending on each nomad base, and the situation there, the sustainability issues should be worked out accordingly. Finally, if everyone turns moneyless, nobody should be expected to pay for their food. The moneyless should then find their own sustainable way of eating, without ANYBODY using money.

Somewhere to discuss potential new bases?
Hi. I'm interested in working with people to establish a base which operates along the lines of the values discussed at https://we.riseup.net/nomadbase/shared-values-for-a-possible-future-base. Is it ok if I mention this somewhere on the Wiki? Or does anyone know where the most appropriate place to mention this might be? --Dslc 18:42, 9 August 2010 (UTC)