As to further facilitate negotiation in relation to labor rights :

Dante [26.05.17 14:33] do you issue some of these, for some of the participants of your meetings , in case they would be open for such recognition ?

Dante [26.05.17 14:34]

Dante , [26.05.17 14:52] as for the escrow approach, I am interested in it to enable participatory budgeting, including when it comes to global syndicalist networks. I imagine the potentials for generating negotiation conditions by having online networks which can enable coordination and compensation for guerilla syndicalism

K [26.05.17 14:52] I wouldn't fiddle with solid tho in an MVP

K [26.05.17 14:52] What would be a scenario Of participatory budgeting

Like collect money for what?

Dante [26.05.17 14:53] well, syndicalism is one. But otherwise, I have more simple, and more sophisticated ideas for applications revolving around participatory budgeting

K [26.05.17 14:53] No I mean concrete scenario

Who's participating and why Everyone puts money in a pot and then sends it somewhere by voting. Correct?

It's a very straightforward application for Ethereum for instance. Question is what is the context.

Dante [26.05.17 14:58] in the case of crypto/ blockchain enabled syndicalism, it would basically be networks of escrow accounts that workers feed through their membership payments.

They can unblock amounts of resources on the escrow by voting. There can be different kinds of smart contracts, which could activate different escrow accounts. For example, there can be smartcontracts activated when a certain "game" of votes is brought together. Such as 30 percent of workers in a specific region.

Or it can be activated through a larger coalition on a larger space, of 10 percent workers activating a specific action, and voting to activate it, so that they get compensated while interrupting work.

The idea is to reduce the cost of syndicalism, by having strategic micro actions.

For example, truckers or air flight controllers , or dockers, or petroleum / refinery workers, can have much more strategic positions to enable the opening up of a negotiation table with government and corporations.

It is possible to grid lock specific interests without having a general strike. A general strike costs a fortune. A "guerilla" protest can be strategic, and take into account various logistical systems and interdependencies in the globalised production and trade system.

K [26.05.17 15:11] Ok so the money would be for a protest for example

Dante [26.05.17 15:12] well. basically, paying people for not going to work - and then using the disruption it generates ( ideally, not a generalized disruption that pisses off the population, but a very strategic disruption that pisses off certain shareholders of certain corporations with whom negotiations need to be opened )

Dante [26.05.17 15:28] it is even more effective to select very specific people not to work, because entire industries can be interrupted, through a few nodes, which means that the corporations still need to pay all the people that come to work even if the production is interrupted on that day. Because logistics now relies on last minute, it can generate powerful negotiation situations.

One example : Romanian truckers are working for the same logistical companies than their western comrades, but get paid 4 or 5 times less, with more difficult working and living conditions. One can pay them for not working, even on longer periods, and disrupt the logistical system enough for there to be European Wide political intervention to make sure that the rights of these truckers reach the same level as western truckers. In the process also making it better for western truckers as it reduces unloyal competition.

Truckers are very organized between each other. They can also block strategic roads. Using an app, and compensating for any loss of salary when stopping work ( paying the loss of romanian salaries likely cheaper than western salaries, yet the potential to block western logistical systems costing a lot of money to western companies, and hence leading to political pressure )

It can be much more cost effective that generalized strikes at a national level. Production systems are globalized, so often the strike can be broken in other ways, and ends up being too expensive for too little to no results.

Anyways, this is a multi billion business in itself, that can be empowered by blockchain