Social Reproduction

Aimed at discussing potential strategies and alternatives to cover the costs of certain aspects of social reproduction ...

Distributed Care

Socialized Child rearing

Forwarded conversation Subject: " socialized child rearing " - in hospitality network style ? / networked intentional collaborative individualism

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From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:34 PM To: Michel B Cc: Marilyn M

Thanks Marilyn and Michel. ( cc: hc ecology )

What if " socialized child rearing " would be extented , not simply to the family , but to intentional networks / new forms of intention based peer tribes.

Not going back to collectivist care , but moving on towards collaborative individualist care.

In western europe , at the current moment and in the last years , it seems that most of the socialization people are having is within their " work / office space " , or with their family , if they still have any ties with their family.

What if the complete socialization aspects of most of the population would change , as it already seems to be , through the greater ease with which we might be able to travel and eventually connect with our " intentional tribes ".

For example , Michel , imagine that you would come back to Belgium , for one or two months , with your family , where perhaps you would not have the same extended family as in Thailand , yet would be able to count on a whole network of peers that are part of intentional networks in which you are active in and contribute to.

We would " pool " child care into specific intentional community " logistics " , to people we believe we can trust , and each of us could take care according to opportunities we find.

For example , I am now in Tartu , Estonia. I could take care of children of a certain age , and probably I would be even more interested to care care of children of friends , or potential friends.

It could even be a opening for me in the community with whom I would feel I share the most intentions with , and would open up not only opportunities and wealth creation through shared care for the community here , but also for me , as I would have access to new friendships and new information about the situation and issues I could collaborate on.

And when I would move on to Helsinki , I would already be able to dispose of a certain credibility m that would eventually open up opportunities with other intentional networks.

There would probably be a difference in the way one would imagine " community " in a collaborative individualist realm , compared to a collectivist realm - I think for example as hospitality networks being a community I connect to , yet I do not have to conform to changing decisions in my life because of some strong influence of the community on the way I rule my life - so it is not , as I perceive it , collectivist.

And the same with connecting with intentional network communities when I would travel , and eventually take care of their children , or gardens , or computers , or ... whatever ... my trust could increase ( or decline ) as on hospitality networks ( and my hospitality profiles ) ,

yet I do not specifically need to conform totally , as I am not specifically dependent on them - I can move on if none of us agrees.

When we can start creating such kind of logistics , as hospitality networks already do with hosting , we can create new opportunities for wealth creation.

And it does not even need to be dependent on money - even though we could imagine creating our own currencies used accross intentional networks.

So there is no specific dependence on the mainstrean financial system.

But these tools do not seem to be existing yet , although two years ago I was talking at the couchsurfing collective in austria about ideas that where going in this direction. Unfortunatly because of internal cs politics all the ideas have not been open for implementation , but perhaps it can be done through other social network tools that are slowely emerging. ( open social , etc )

I would like to go to Helsinki , where this project is being developped

http://www.helsinkivirtualvillage.fi/Resource.phx/adc/inenglish/index.htx

and see if they are open for such kind of social experimentation.

Hugs

Dante

From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <[email protected]> Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:26 PM To: Michel B Cc: Marilyn M

Hi Michel , Marilyn ( cc: hc ecology )

Michel : " I can indeed imagine such networks arising in the future, though see zero hints of it at present, "

with all the ideas in relation to alternative forms of collaboration , alternative governance , and with the networks of researchers growing around them ,

I wonder how can we best facilitate support and collaboration between progressive social and lifestyle change activists , to bring forward , experiment , develop such kind of solutions ?

I remember an event I attended in England , which had the intention of connecting the academic world with the activist world , called knowledge lab , yet such a temporary event , I feel , is not enough to build up a real open , inclusive and networked environment space that facilitates the gathering of individuals interested in developing their creative and caring collaborative intentions. ( many other events and camps , especially in the summer , such as http://eyfa.org/ecotopia might have similar opportuniites for sharing ideas and meeting others - but all too often , because of their temporary and holliday nature , do not build up much further then awareness raising )

I m still looking forward to find some right combination of resources and spirit that could facilitate the emergence of such kind of spaces / hubs.

Yes , there are squats - but they too are all too often limited in their access to resources.

So anyway , as to continue on this search for partners , I might end up in Helsinki soon - I ve heard of some re-development of the Arabiaranta neighborhood.

I heard about the project when going to a conference in Brussels - yet most of the people pushing for the project and getting money for it ( from european institutuions for example ) , at that meeting , seemed to be bureaucrats ,

and the approach is very much centered around business and technology , supported by learning environments needed to maintain high levels of solution development , and with eventual potential social network experimentation around it.

I m not ( yet ? ) a business man , I do not have $$$ to invest or banks to back me up , ...

where do I start ?

I ve asked this question earlier - and got some answers - yet , still , I end up being limited by basic questions like : where will I sleep tonight , where will I get the money for food , how long can I stay here , ... ?

But still , yes , where do I , do we , start ?

Creating alliances between academic environments ? between organizations ?

But thats already contrary to the peer to peer approach , even though it could eventually try to promote it. ( although my experience with youth movements , and of what the hierarchic information structures grants require , made me very suspicious after a number of experiences with projects )

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I met a lot of young people out there - although they might be a minority of the population.

A minority which nevertheless seems to be growing , and who seems to be willing to spend some time in living a different kind of life , open to develop new solutions , but they do not know how to survive during such an enterprise on a permanent basis.

And only few dare to go into the world without any backup , without any money , without any support. Which makes it even more difficult to find ways to gather and develop solutions together.

This is a dilemna I hope we can solve at some point.

I wrote this proposal - hoping it could help leading us to experimental networked projects , which could get ad hoc support :

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hc_ecology/message/565

Although it seems that perhaps I express it in a way that is too confused or complex for many people to understand ... hmm

Anyone out there with some suggestions ?